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enas64
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:15    Post subject: MOV Video Containers does not work Reply with quote

I use windows 7 and I have video files which are simply xvid and divx contained in a .mov video file containers.

It playes through VLC, just fine..
but with your codec, It does not work, and even the ffdshow audio/video notification bar icons does not show up

here is a sample:

http://rapidshare.com/files/301434481/sample.mov.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 13:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

What player are you using?

If it's Windows Media Player - go thank Microsoft for that, WMP will always use DMO codecs if available and will only fall back to DirectShow codecs if it can't locate a DMO; and Windows 7 shipped with DMO codecs for almost every popular format.

Try Media Player Classic Homecinema instead, that should have no problems using ffdshow.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 17:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually I tried media player classic, quick time,.. etc.. and it does not work
and tried changing the default windows 7 filters to use ffdshow instead, but no dice,...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 0:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

enas64 wrote:
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and tried changing the default windows 7 filters to use ffdshow instead, but no dice,...

Used tool for changing preferred DirectShow filters in Windows 7?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Placio74 wrote:
enas64 wrote:
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and tried changing the default windows 7 filters to use ffdshow instead, but no dice,...

Used tool for changing preferred DirectShow filters in Windows 7?


yes, and also tried, uninstalling ffdshow, and then installing Shark007 windows 7 codec pack, which uses ffdshow and manages directshow filters, and still no dice!

has the sample file worked for anyone on wmp ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this is QuickTime we're talking about - open MPC, go to "View > Options > Player > Formats", go to the "Quicktime file" line in the list and, if it's saying "QuickTime" at the right end, click on it and select "DirectShow" instead - otherwise MPC won't use DirectShow at all to open your MOV file, but will directly use QuickTime.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 20:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not work!

the file should work when played with any player since I installed the codec pack that uses ffdshow, but it seems not to work, even when playing the file with quicktime itself!

it seems when playing the file ffdshow does not run at all, all recognizes the video in the container!

i wonder why it just works with VLC,
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 0:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...

MediaInfo, GSpot and Avinaptic recognizes only container (MPEG-4 / Quicktime) and nothing more.

I can't play this file through DirectShow (Gabest MP4 Splitter + ffdshow).
Also, i can't play this file in SMPlayer and even... QuickTime Player (maybe possible in Mac version).

FFmpeg just returns an error: "moov atom not found".

So... something is wrong with this sample file.

Try 'fix' this file...

- run VLC,
- in Open Media add this .MOV file,
- change Play to Convert,

- in Convert set destination path, name file and extension (.MP4),
- create a new profile,
- set name profile,
- Encapsulation = MP4/MOV
- Video codec = enable Video and set Keep original video track,
- Audio codec = enable Audio and set Keep original audio track,
- Save,
- set new profile and Start.

http://kotuha.com/file/zIXRv-sample_vlc.html

BTW
VLC uses only internal decoders and demuxers - does not use DirectShow filters (ffdshow is DirectShow filter).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Placio74 wrote:
Hmm...

MediaInfo, GSpot and Avinaptic recognizes only container (MPEG-4 / Quicktime) and nothing more.

I can't play this file through DirectShow (Gabest MP4 Splitter + ffdshow).
Also, i can't play this file in SMPlayer and even... QuickTime Player (maybe possible in Mac version).

FFmpeg just returns an error: "moov atom not found".

So... something is wrong with this sample file.

Try 'fix' this file...

- run VLC,
- in Open Media add this .MOV file,
- change Play to Convert,

- in Convert set destination path, name file and extension (.MP4),
- create a new profile,
- set name profile,
- Encapsulation = MP4/MOV
- Video codec = enable Video and set Keep original video track,
- Audio codec = enable Audio and set Keep original audio track,
- Save,
- set new profile and Start.

http://kotuha.com/file/zIXRv-sample_vlc.html

BTW
VLC uses only internal decoders and demuxers - does not use DirectShow filters (ffdshow is DirectShow filter).


the file is not corrupted or anything, I have alot of those video files that I converted on a mac (just changed containers) by "MPEG Streamclip", they work fine on my mac with the persian codecs pack...

the one thing you should be aware of, is that the actual whole file on my Windows 7 pc, works with the shark007 codec pack but Audio only, through any player, like WMP12, I just cannot get video..

but if I take a sample of the file (like the one I posted here), it does not seem to work at all in WMP12, not even audio..

so I guess the problem is with the tool, i took a sample of the file with.
shoul I try to split a sample of the file from my mac quick time and try to post it here?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

enas64 wrote:
it seems when playing the file ffdshow does not run at all, all recognizes the video in the container!

Are you sure you have activated the needed codec on the codecs page in ffdshow's configuration? If you haven't, it's no wonder ffdshow won't work...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, stop making such files.

VLC can play them. Other players on Windows can not.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 16:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

enas64 wrote:
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the file is not corrupted or anything, I have alot of those video files that I converted on a mac (just changed containers) by "MPEG Streamclip", they work fine on my mac with the persian codecs pack...

Heh...
So, used Mac version of QuickTime (with Perian) can play - however not used Windows version of QuickTime.
MPEG Streamclip uses QuickTime.
When try open sample file in Windows version of MPEG Streamclip just returns: "File open error: unrecognized file type".
It's not about codecs, but file type - Windows version of QuickTime (and some DirectShow filters - splitters) does not recognize this file as MOV.


enas64 wrote:
...the one thing you should be aware of, is that the actual whole file on my Windows 7 pc, works with the shark007 codec pack but Audio only, through any player, like WMP12, I just cannot get video..

Uh, used Nero Digital Parser...?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here is a new sample I made, with quicktime for mac.
this should be ok:

http://rapidshare.com/files/306267744/sample.mov.html

test it and tell me what you think.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can play in VLC and SMPlayer.
Can play through DirectShow used Nero MP4 Splitter and required decoders (ffdshow for example).

QuickTime Player - can't play, Xvid for QT is available only for Mac.
Gabest MP4 Splitter (when try play through DirectShow) - does not recognize video stream (?) - no video image when play in DirectShow based players (MPC-HC too).

Can remux this sample to AVI (MPEG Streamclip, FFmpeg) and then I see no problems.

BTW
Of course this is not a problem with ffdshow.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for you input and effort, so, there is no problem...
but then what would be the way to play those files in WMP or itunes in windows 7?
is there such a thing?

or is this a Gabest MP4 Splitter problem ?
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